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You may discuss here anything regarding the Athens Olympic Stadium. See also the relevant thread from the old forum: http://stadia.proboards16.com/index.cgi?board=engstadia&action=display&num=1048052542.

CheeseburgerParadise · Guest

Could I just ask: how recent are the photos that appear in this newspaper?

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/news/files_521064KathiLev&xml/&aspKath/extra.asp?fdate=21/02/2004

Admin · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:59 pm Post subject:

15 days old max.

Christos 7 · Junior Member Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 95

This is gonna be to close. Shocked

Anyway, I would really have loved to see all of Calatrava's works realised as a whole. It would have been spectacular. Sad

UWG · Guest

It will be close...very close..too close
GROUND WORKS
What I am worried about is what else they are going to cut back on from the latest plans that they have put forward. In my opinion the ground-works/landscaping surrounding the facilities at OAKA will be finished in time exception maybe the ones immediately around the stadium where they are putting together the roof. Until they move them into position I don’t see how they can begin working on those projects.
VELODROME
Speaking about roofs, what’s the deal with the roof at the Velodrome?????? It looks as if its ready to be put into position. I can see they have started work on the footings where the roof will finnaly rest but it seems as if there is some kind of holdup (Problems with soil maybe who knows)....unless of course they feel that comfortable about the timeline and are taking their time to insure no mistakes happen. But here again, having the roof of the Velodrome where it is today is holding up work on the landscaping and the other half of the Velodrome which is nothing but dirt..
AGORA
I have read the newspaper articles in Kathimerine and other newspapers about the delays with the Agora...which again in my opinion is a project that could have started back in August of 03 when the rest of the works at the OAKA started.....contrary to many of the comments that IOC members and Greek politicians have said in the past I believe that this project will be delivered in time for the Olympics. However, judging from the pictures that were available at the Greek forum about this same topic...there seemed to be only one crew digging holes and making the footings where the arches of the Agora will be placed....why not have 2 or 3 crews doing the same thing so the project can move on?????

These comments are merely food for thought and in no way am I been negative about the Olympics (believe it or not)....besides I have faith in the engineers and project managers that have taking charge of this mammoth project.

UWG · Guest

How true is it that there will be tunnels connecting some of the sports complexes at the OAKA so athletes don’t have to walk around the grounds of the OAKA????

Guest · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:06 pm Post subject:

Here is a picture of what the glass panels that will cover the Olympic stadium will look like...Attached is the article that accompanied the picture…although its old news that PALRAM got the contract to make the panels the article provides some pretty interesting technical details about the panels.

http://www.theglazine.com/newsarchive/news030204.html

UWG · Guest

I forgot to put my name on the previous post....sorry

CheeseburgerParadise · Guest

Wow!
If those photos are at most two weeks old then - despite all the condemnation reserved for the the organisers, sporting and civil service bureaucrats, politicians and engineers and contractors for their procrastination, red-tape and inept handling of matters so far - there are also going to be some near-herioc tales to tell of equally dedicated and supremely professional and talented individuals who take what we see in those photos and make an OIlympic venue of it.

I just hope that those who put in the work to get things done on time get the credit they deserve....though I suppose this may be too much to ask given domestic politics and the politicing within the organising committee.

As UWG pointed out, the landscaping may suffer in the rush to complete the venues. I mean, workable stadia are absolutely necessary. The aesthetics that surround them can be redesigned and reduced in scope. This is a shame because it's a mixture of grandiose projects and the little touches that make the atmosphere.

Let's hope for the best!

UWG · Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:06 pm Post subject:

This is kind of Ironic...but in a way its probably a good thing that they had not started to plant all the trees and shrubs otherwise they would have been killed by the snowstorms...I bet that all the trees planted around the agora are probably dead unless they took some kind of precautionary measure before the snowfall or the type of tree they planted is immune to snow and cold weather... Very Happy

UWG · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:27 am Post subject:

I am including this link for those that are interested in keeping up with the progress of the construction at the Olympic Stadium...
http://www.bung-ag.de/stadion.htm

peter22 · Guest

Looking at the pictures of the updated Athens 2004 stadium I can't help but worry. The stadium still looks like it has a lot of work to be done. We only have about 4 months left. I dont know if we can make it. does anyone have any kind of a percentage of how much of the upgrading has been done? I hope Karamalis keeps up to his promise of speeding up Olympic preparations.

AEK Australia · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:46 am Post subject:

I have been really struggling with the lack of pictures coming in for the main stadium...... And the webcam being offline is not easing my apprehention!!

gocaps75 · Guest

AEK. I did not know there was a webcam. Can you give me the web address. Thanks.

AEK Australia · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 11:34 pm Post subject:

This is the URL: http://www2.bung-ag.de/webcams_bung/archiv/fset_main.htm but it is now coming up with an error message. It only functioned till the 3rd March........ If you can read Greek they just posted some new pics in the Greek section.

Christos 7 · Junior Member Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 95

Guys, the scales of the roof are starting to go on. Wink

Take a look at the new web page of stadia.gr http://www.stadia.gr/oaka-new.html or if you can get by, check out the Greek section of the forums also.

Calatrava himself already said the hardest part is finished. Watch it all unfold now. Cool

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Ziaka · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:25 am Post subject:

Chris lets hope it will go smoothly from now on. According to news reports the Olympic Stadium should be available in mid-July. That's one month before the opening ceremonies. It's cutting it way too close. Hope there are no unforseen problems.

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Reaper the pure · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:57 pm Post subject:

On the plan, there is the main stadium and two smaller ones side by side similar in style to the main stadium. Why is only one of them built? Question

Admin · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:28 am Post subject:

The one on the far left is the velodrome, which will be ready as planned. The other one on its right is the proposed roof for the open-air swimming pool. It's the plan proposed by Calatrava, which will not be implemented. They will instead use a much simpler design (if they make it on time, since it is one of the 2-3 projects whose completion is currently in question).

AEK Australia · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:30 am Post subject:

Hi Reaper, It seems that the second small stadium you are seeing is the swimming pool complex. It was initially going to not have a roof, as Barcelona and Atlanta, but then the broadcasters requested one due to lighting etc. so i believe they were going to put one up, which is what you see in the plans, but due to time constraints they are now going to do something a little cruder, light putting a tarpoline on 4 pillars as a temporary solution, which wouldnt take too long to put together, better safe than sorry i guess!

Lucretius · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:40 am Post subject:

Behold!

Construction Photos, taken 18/3

http://users.auth.gr/~lvorgias/cons/Ypsilon.htm

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Reaper the pure · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:26 am Post subject:

Right, now i see what all that fuss about the swimming pool roof was about. That is a shame... oh, well maybe it can still look good even if it is cheap. Lets hope it is not just an upside down trampoline.. Rolling Eyes

AEK Australia · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:17 am Post subject:

I'm sure everything will look great. The major issues now is that the landscaping and rubbish from all the contruction is there to be seen. Once swept aside and everything is cleaned up, a whole lot of grass and trees put in, it will look fantastic. The great thing about the temporary roof they are putting in is that is going to be very wide open, so it will feel just like it's outdoors just with a bit of shade to keep the killer sun from frying the swimmers and the crowd. It's just a bit hard for people to visualise it with all the dirt from the construction everywhere.

Christos 7 · Junior Member Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 95

[quote="Lucretius"]Behold!

Construction Photos, taken 18/3

http://users.auth.gr/~lvorgias/cons/Ypsilon.htm

bravo!!! efharisto file.

Nekka · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:47 pm Post subject:

Nice photos. Bring on the greenery! It has been a long and anxious wait to see some trees planted. From the other completed venues - namely Nikea Weightlifting Hall and Ano Liossia Hall - I have seen little in the way of landscaping. On the contrary, I have seen lots of concrete and tarmac. Does anyone have a recent photo depicting Nikea Hall and its surronds? I understand it is a very built-up area. Is the landscaping for OAKA still being scaled back as previously mentioned? Is Athens2004 still delivering the original number of trees and shrubs for Athens?