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projected · Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject:

Opws eixa uposxe8ei, 8a sas kanw mia 1h analisi tou fetinou TOUR DE FRANCE kai 8a sas upen8umisw ta fabori,pi8anes ekplhseis ktl.

SXOLIA SXETIKA ME TH FETINH DIADROMH :

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Oi prwtes 8 diadromes einai, opws panta, gia SPRINTERS (dhladh den uparxoun idiaiteres anhfores).

Epishs se autes tis 8 diadromes oi 2 einai "loukoumi" gia ton Armstrong.
Anaferomai fusika sthn "XRONODIADROMH"(thn 1h mera) kai ston AGWNA OMADWN(4h mera), opou h omada tou Armstrong se sxesh me tis alles einai san na sugkrinoume Brazilia me Ellada.....(autos einai kai enas apo tous pollous logous pou o Armstrong kerdizei.)

H 1h diadromh "BOUNOU" (anhfores) thn briskoume thn 9h mera.

Den einai tipota to idiaitero..(dhladh mhn fantasteite treles anhfores..), alla mporei na epifulasei ekplhkseis.
Exei 6 anhfores (mono 2/6 me "mesh klish" katw apo to 4%), alla h 6h anhfora(Balon d'Alsace) diarkei 9.1 Km me mesh klish 6,8%.

To problhma omws einai oti apexei 55 Km apo ton termatismo.... Rolling Eyes

......opws katalabainete opoios xasei mexri kai 2-3 lepta sthn anhfora exei ta xronika peri8wria na kalupsei to xameno edafos sthn eu8eia,kathfora....

Amesws meta thn 9h mera exoume 1 mera ksekourashs kai h 10h diadromh einai h PRWTH SOBARH DIADROMH TOU TOUR DE FRANCE..

Prokeitai gia thn perifhmh ANHFORA me termatismo sto Courchevel (opou o PANTANI eixe dialusei ton ARMSTONG afhnontas ton pisw....)

Bebaia pali to problhma einai oti anamesa stis 2 duskoles anhfores pou exei h diadromh, parembalontai peripou 40km....hmmmm

H 11h diadromh 8a exei sigoura endiaferon.

H 12h einai anoixth gia ekplhkseis (6 anhfores me mikrh klish omws).

EDW EIMASTE!! Laughing

H 14h (14. Agde - Ax-3-Domaines, 220,5 km) exei 2 anhfores POLY DUSKOLES (edw 8a exoume sugkroush ARMSTRONG-BASSO-ULLRICH).
Shmeiwnw oti oi 2 anhfores arxizoun meta apo 140km epipedhs diadromhs.

H 15h isws na einai h diadromh pou 8a krinei ton nikhth tou Tour!!!

6 anhfores panw apo to 6%(mesh klish panta milame) moirasmenes se sunolikh apostash 120Km peripou .
O termatismos einai (epitelous Cool

) se anhfora ( 11km Cool

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Autn einai kata th gnwmh mou h pio duskolh (kai wraia ) diadromh tou fetinou TOUR !

16h diadromh :

Epishs duskolh me 4 anhfores (metaksu twn opoiwn l'Aubisque), alla kai 60Km KATHFORAS (opou o Savoldelli 8a dwsei SHOW opws panta! ) (sas 8umizw oti o Savoldelli (fetinos nikhths tou GIRO D'ITALIA) einai o TOP ston kosmo sthn kathfora)

Sthn sunexeia epistrefoume se diadromes gia SPRINTES, XRONODIADROMES ktl ktl

SUMPERASMA (PROSWPIKH MOU GNWMH) :

PSILO - APOGOHTEYSH ! Laughing

Ekshgw to giati :

1) Ta panta einai sugkentrwmena sthn 2h ebdomada! (opou uparxoun oles oi anhfores...) . Bebaia sxedon panta etsi einai (h 2h ebdomada einai h pio duskolh ) , alla fetos to parakanane....

2) Opws panta, oi anhfores einai gurw sto 40% pio eukoles se sxesh me autes tou Giro d'Italia.

Pantws, an prepei na dialeksete ti na parakolou8hsete, upen8umizw tis diadromes pou proteinw :

9,10,11,14,15,16 kai fusika h xronodiadromh tou sabatou (1h mera) pou exei panta thn gohteia ths (kai pou fusika 8a kerdisei o Armstrong)

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FABORI :

1)ARMSTRONG
2)IVAN BASSO
3)ULLRICH

Loipon : 2 apo autous tous 3, 8a einai stis 2 prwtes 8eseis tou ba8rou Wink

(ennoeitai xwris na laboume upopsh mas traumatismous,atuxhmata ktl...)

SUNH8WS sthn 3h 8esh anebainei panta kapoia "ekplhksh"(outsider)....opote sas parousiazw orismenes pi8anes ekplhkseis :

OUTSIDERS :
1)VINOKUROV
2)-KLODEN
3)POPOVYCH
4)SAVOLDELLI

*** Popovych kai Savoldelli einai polu geroi, alla den prokeitai na kerdisoun giati einai sthn omada tou Armstong...(apokleietai na kanoun epi8esh ston arxhgo tous...). Alla 8a dwsoun maxh gia mia 3h 8esh sthn genikh ba8mologia ktl.

POLYYY OUTSIDERS :

Mayo - Botero - Moreau - Leipheimer - Heras

OUTSIDERS ITALOI :

Cioni - Garzelli - Leonardo Piepoli(prosoxh se auton ton nearo podhlath giati einai POLY DUNATOS STHN ANHFORA...den apokleiw na mas afhsei me to stoma anoixto..... Wink

)

PI8ANOI NIKHTES DIADROMWN GIA SPRINTES (oxi dhladh nikhtes sthn telikh genikh ba8mologia ) :

Dustuxws den summetexoun oi 2 kaluteroi Sprinters ths Italias : Petacchi kai Paolo Bettini .....ara 8a doume tous australous kai gallous stis prwtes 8eseis.

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AUTA PROS TO PARON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 MERES MAS XWRIZOUN APO THN EKKINHSH!!!!!!

Suntonisteite sto EUROSPORT (osoi einai sthn Ellada) kai 8a prospa8hsw na perigrafw sto forum (an exw eleu8ero xrono sth dia8esh mou.. Crying or Very sad

) thn ekseliksh tou Tour (gia osous den mporoun na to parakolou8hsoun).

p.s: Elpizw na mhn ta diabazw mono egw auta pou grafw giati 8a noiwsw polu grafikos Very Happy

projected · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject:

Ebala sto parapanw post FOTO twn diadromwn (etsi wste na katalabete kalutera auta pou egrapsa Wink

)

Pros8etw tis problepseis twn BOOKS sthn Italia gia

i) TELIKO NIKHTH TOU TOUR DE FRANCE :

ARMSTRONG LANCE 1.85
ULLRICH JAN 3.50
BASSO IVAN 7.00
VINOKOUROV ALEXANDRE 8.00

MAYO IBAN 25.00
KLODEN ANDREAS 33.00
BOTERO SANTIAGO 33.00
POPOVYCH YAROSLAV 50.00
HERAS ROBERTO 50.00
VALVERDE ALEJANDRO 66.00

p.s: Wraio to 7 tou Basso.... Wink

ii) NIKHTH THS 1hs DIADROMHS (xronoprologos 19km):

ARMSTRONG LANCE 4.00
MC GEE BRADLEY 4.00
ULLRICH JAN 5.00
BOTERO SANTIAGO 6.00
ROGERS MICHAEL 8.00
CANCELLARA FABIAN 10.00

projected · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject:

Sunexizw thn parousiash tou TOUR DE FRANCE (den ksenerwnw me tipota. 8a sas kanw FANATIKOUS ths podhlasias Laughing

)

Summetexoun 21 omades .
H ka8e omada exei 9 podhlates. (ara sunolo 189 podhlates)

Ypen8umizw oti apo tous 9 podhlates ths ka8e omadas, 1 einai o arxhgos kai oi upoloipoi prepei na ton boh8hsoun na kerdizei.
Otan blepoun oti einai kourasmenos, arxizoun na "trabane" (dhladh epitagxunoun kai o arxhgos prepei na akolou8hsei ton ru8mo tous)

Sthn podhlasia EXEI APISTEUTH DIAFORA na prospa8eis na anebeis px. mia anhfora monos sou , apo to na thn anebaineis mazi me kapoion allo (kai na dinete allages o enas ston allon )

Oi 21 omades einai apo :

GALLIA (5)
ITALIA (4)
ISPANIA (4)
GERMANIA (2)
BELGIO (2)
DANIA (1)
USA (1)
OLANDIA (1)
ELBETIA (1)

Gia na doume pote 8a steilei kai h Ellada 1 omada....isws prin pe8anw na to dw ki'auto.... Rolling Eyes

SAS PAROUSIAZW TIS 5 PIO DUNATES OMADES

----DISCOVERY CHANNEL (USA)-----

1 Lance ARMSTRONG USA 1971
2 Josè AZEVEDO POR 1973
3 Manuel BELTRAN MARTINEZ SPA 1971
4 George HINCAPIE USA 1973
5 Benjamin NOVAL GONZALEZ SPA 1979
6 Pavel PADRNOS CZE 1970
7 Yaroslav POPOVYCH UKR 1980
8 Josè Luis RUBIERA SPA 1973
9 Paolo SAVOLDELLI ITA 1973

----T-MOBILE(GERMANIA)-----

Jan ULLRICH GER 1973
Giuseppe GUERINI ITA 1970
Matthias KESSLER GER 1979
Andreas KLODEN GER 1975
Daniele NARDELLO ITA 1972
Stephan SCHRECK GER 1978
Tobias STEINHASUER GER 1972
Oscar SEVILLA RIBERA SPA 1976
Alexandre VINOKOUROV KAZ 1973

----CSC(DANIA)-----

*** THS PLAKAS OMADA .....APLA EXEI TON IVAN BASSO Wink

Ivan BASSO ITA 1977
Kurt-Asle ARVESEN NOR 1975
Bobby JULICH USA 1971
Giovanni LOMBARDI ITA 1969
Carlos SASTRE CANDIL SPA 1975
Nicki SORENSEN DAN 1975
Jens VOIGT GER 1971
David ZABRISKIE USA 1979
Jakob PILL h o Luke ROBERTS

----LIQUIGAS-BIANCHI(ITALIA)-----

Stefano GARZELLI ITA 1973
Michael ALBASINI SUI 1980
Magnus BACKSTEDT SWE 1975
Kjell CARLSTROM FIN 1976
Dario David CIONI ITA 1974
Mauro GEROSA ITA 1974
Marcus LJUNGQVIST SWE 1974
Luciano PAGLIARINI BRA 1978
Franco PELLIZOTTI ITA 1978

----EUSKALTEL EUSKADI (ISPANIA)-----

Iban MAYO SPA 1977
Mikel ARTETXE SPA 1976
Iker CAMANO SPA 1979
Unai ETXEBERRIA VEN 1978
Iker FLORES SPA 1976
David HERRERO SPA 1979
Inigo LANDALUZE SPA 1977
Egoi MARTINEZ SPA 1978
Haimar ZUBELDIA SPA 1977

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2 SXOLIA :

1) An kai den ebala kamia GALLIKH omada sto top 5 , 8a deite oi Galloi na kerdizoun arketes diadromes (alla sthn genikh ba8mologia 8a exoun maximum 1 podhlath...)

2) An parathrhsate sxedon oles oi omades exoun KSENOUS sto roster tous....px o IVAN BASSO einai o arxhgos se omada ths Danias.

jortheo · Full Member Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 259

Η AMD χορηγος της Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team aka ομαδα του Lance Armstrong

projected · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:36 am Post subject:

KURIES KAI KURIOI !!!! MAS XWRIZOUN ELAXISTES WRES APO THN ENARKSH TOU TOUR DE FRANCE !!!!!!!! Exclamation

Pera apo tis faneles ths ka8e omadas, sas parousiazw tis 4 "SPECIAL" faneles tou Tour :

Thn "mu8ikh" kitrinh fanela (h antistoixh "ROZ" tou GIRO D'ITALIA) 8a thn foraei (apo to 1919 pleon) opoios prohgeitai sthn GENIKH BA8MOLOGIA !

Skopos einai poios 8a ftasei sto PARISI(termatismos) me thn KITRINH FANELA!

(thn 1h emdomada 8a deite na thn forane SPRINTERS, alla apo thn 2h ebdomada 8a thn foraei kapoios anamesa se ARMSTRONG,ULLRICH,BASSO,VINOCOUROV ktl)

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Thn prasinh fanela 8a exei dikaiwma na thn foraei opoios prohgeitai sthn " BA8MOLOGIA TWN BONUS"
(ka8e diadromh dinei kapoious ba8mous. Epishs ba8moi dinontai kai gia "endiamesa perasmata" kata thn diarkeia ths diadromhs)

Me liga logia einai mia fanela gia na uparxei endiaferon kai kata th diarkeia mias diadromhs kai oxi mono otan plhsiazoume sto telos...
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Thn perifhmh "FANELA POUA" 8a thn foraei o "KALUTEROS PODHLATHS STIS DIADROMES POU EXOUN ANHFORES(BOUNA)"

(kai edw uparxoun bonus gia ka8e anhfora shmantikh kai auth h fanela uparxei gia na antameibei kai osous den katafernoun na einai pshla sthn genikh ba8mologia, alla einai geroi MONO stis anhfores.)
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Thn ASPRH FANELA 8a thn foraei o "KALUTEROS NEOS" (osoi exoun gennh8ei meta apo 1/1/1980)

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ORISMENA NEA THS TELEUTAIAS STIGMHS :

1) X8es ekanan KSAFNIKO ELEGXO ANTI-DOPING CONTROL upeu8unoi tou Gallikou Upourgeiou A8lhtismou ston ARMSTRONG

2) O ULLRICH eixe ena atuxhma x8es....xthphse sto pisw meros tou autokinhtou tou manager ths omadas tou (T-MOBILE) (xtuphse to kefali tou sto pisw tzami kai to ekane 8ripsala)

Eutuxws den traumatisthke sobara, alla ti atuxia auto to paidi re gamoto.... Crying or Very sad

projected · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject:

LOIPON.......ftasame hdh sthn 8h mera tou TOUR !!!

Hr8e h wra na kanoume ena suntomo apologismo:

1h mera: Lance Armstrong......
H 1h mera htan enas "XRONOPROLOGOS" 19km. Me anemo kontra, o Amerikanos katafere na termatisei 2°s , 2 molis seconds pisw apo ton Zabriskie (polu endiaferon nearos amerikanos pou trexei sthn omada tou IVAN BASSO), enw afhse pisw tou 1'01'' ton ULLRICH kai 1'26'' ton IVAN BASSO Shocked

(se 19km )

To "highlight" tou agwna htan to prosperasma pou ekane o Armstrong ston Ullrich, "skotonwntas" ton psuxologika..... Rolling Eyes

(deksia o Armstrong, aristera o Ullrich)

*** 8umizw oti "XRONOPROLOGOS" shmainei oti :

Orizoume mia diadromh px. 50Km. O ka8enas trexei MONOS TOU kai metrame poso xrono kanei gia na ftasei.
Kerdizei fusika opoios kanei ton kalutero xrono (einai san na trexei 100m stibo o ka8e a8lhths monos tou kai meta na sugkrinoume tous xronous.)
BEBAIA , epeidh milame gia 150-200 a8lhtes.......opws katalabainete an perimenoume na ftasei o enas kai na ksekinhsei o allos...den 8a teleiwname pote...

OPOTE : Feugei o enas. Meta apo 15lepta px. , ksekinaei o allos ktl ktl.
(auto kanei thn diadromh polu endiaferousa , giati otan thn blepeis sthn tv, mporeis na sugkrineis ta "perasmata" , opws sthn formula 1 dhladh.....koitas se ti xrono perase o tade apo to tade xiliometro ktl ktl

Ara, opws katalabainete, otan o Armstrong pernaei ton Ullrich se mia diadromh 19 molis km.....mporeite na katalabete ti psuxologiko xtuphma htan auto gia ton Germano..... Embarassed

2h - 7h mera : Opws htan anamenomeno, oi epomenoi 6 agwnes eixan nikhtes diaforous SPRINTERS (den uphrxan anhfores).

Ksexwrisan o BOONEN (Belgos)

kai fusika o gnwstos Australos Mcewen

**** En tw metaksy o Armstong phre HDH thn kitrinh fanela (ka8ws einai 1°s sth genikh ba8mologia) .

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8h mera (o shmerinos agwnas) :

Shmera gia prwth fora o Armstrong edeikse liga shmadia "mh apoluths kuriarxias" Twisted Evil

(an kai krathse thn kitrinh fanela fusika).

Sas analuw ti egine apo pleuras taktikhs:

KSEKINAEI O AGWNAS (231,5Km)

Opws sas eixa pei, h anhfora pou uparxei sta teleutaia km einai men shmantikh (2hs kathgorias) , alla to pleonekthma gia ton Armstrong kai genika gia opoion exane seconds einai oti mexri ton termatismo uphrxan 10km peripou kathforas.....(opote mporouse na kalupsei to xameno edafos).

- Ksekinaei o agwnas gurw stis 11:00 to prwi.....
- Se kapoia fash kanei epi8esh ena group podhlatwn anamesa stous opoious uparxei kai enas apo thn omada tou ULLRICH (T-MOBILE).........

Ara h omada tou ARMSTRONG (DISCOVERY) einai anagkasmenh na krathsei upshlo ru8mo giati an tuxon argotera kanei kamia epi8esh o ULLRICH......8a brei "boh8o" mprosta kai o Armstrong 8a einai duskolo na ton akolou8hsei!!!!

- Gia na mhn ta polulogw o agwnas sunexisthke me "mikro-epi8eseis" pou mia fora tis "akurwne" h T-MOBILE , mia h "CSC"(h omada tou BASSO) , mia h DISCOVERY.....

- Ftasame sthn megalh anhfora....... Cool

KANEI EPI8ESH O VINOKUROV!!!!!!!!!

AMESWS o Armstrong leei ston SAVOLDELLI (boh8os tou ) na akurwsei thn epi8esh tou Vinokurov!!! (dhladh na ton akolou8hsei apo konta gia na stamathsei thn "fugh" )

Auto sunexizetai gia 3-4 fores mexri pou KSAFNIKA KANEI EPI8ESH O KLODEN !!!!!!!!!

(boh8os tou Ullrich pou perusi eixe termatisei sthn 2h 8esh ths genikhs ba8mologias!!!!!)

KAI EDW EXOUME TO 1° ARNHTIKO SHMADI GIA TON ARMSTRONG SE AUTO TO TOUR DE FRANCE!!!!!!

O Amerikanos menei xwris "boh8ous" sthn anhfora!!!!!! (dhladh Savoldelli, Popoyuch ktl den katafernoun pia na akolou8hsoun ta ksepetagmata twn KLODEN kai VINOCUROV kai menoun pisw).

Fusika o Amerikanos den eixe problhma na akolou8hsei apo konta VINOCUROV-ULLRICH-BASSO giati h anhfora den htan idiaitera duskolh..... (htan kai suntomh).

Epipleon den ton endiefere an o KLODEN kerdize ton agwna shmera giati o Germanos einai polu pisw sthn genikh ba8mologia Wink

To megalo erwthmatiko omws einai :

" EINAI ONTWS KOURASMENH H OMADA TOU AMERIKANOU?"
" AN "TA EFTYSAN" SHMERA OI BOH8OI TOU ARMSTRONG SE MIA TOSO EUKOLH ANHFORA, TI 8A GINEI STIS ALPEIS???"
"EXOUN ELPIDES OI ULLRICH-VINOCUROV-BASSO, h o AMERIKANOS 8a kerdisei pali eukola (opws ola edeixnan mexri ton shmerino agwna ) ???

Thn apanthsh 8a thn exoume thn TRITH (12 Iouliou....) (1os sobaros agwnas sta bouna....)

savroulis · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:

στην σημερινή πρώτη ανηφορική ειδική, ο μάστορας, ονόματι Αρμστρονγκ έδειξε γιατί είναι διάσημος αναρριχητης....

και η κατάταξη μετά το σημερινό ετάπ
001 ARMSTRONG Lance DSC USA 00' 00"
057 RASMUSSEN Mickael RAB DEN 00' 09"
031 MANCEBO Francisco IBA ESP 00' 09"
021 BASSO Ivan CSC ITA 01' 02"
164 LEIPHEIMER Levi GST USA 01' 15"
151 MAZZOLENI Eddy LAM ITA 02' 14"
044 EVANS Cadel DVL AUS 02' 14"
014 KLÖDEN Andréas TMO GER 02' 14"
108 KASHECHKIN Andrey C.A KAZ 02' 14"
066 LANDIS Floyd PHO USA 02' 14"
087 PIEPOLI Leonardo SDV ITA 02' 14"
011 ULLRICH Jan TMO GER 02' 14"
096 JAKSCHE Jorg LSW GER 02' 19"

projected · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:07 am Post subject:

Blepontas ton x8esino agwna (o 1°s pragmatikos agwnas autou tou TOUR....) den mporousan na mhn er8oun sto mualo mou oi "MAGIKES" stigmes pou mas xarise o MARCO PANTANI.....o PEIRATHS........ o monos an8rwpos pou sta bouna ebgale k.o ton Armstrong.....

Idiaitera otan eida x8es ton Amerikano na bgainei apo thn perifhmh suragga 1km prin ton termatismo, hr8e sto mualo mou h "roz figoura" tou Peirath...tou "elefantaki" , opws ton onomaze o Amerikanos... Crying or Very sad

Gia tous pio neous, gia autous pou arxizoun twra na asxolountai me thn podhlasia, giautous pou 8a asxolh8oun isws sto mellon, kanw post orismenes foto apo ekeinh thn mu8ikh maxh metaksy ARMSTRONG-PANTANI..... Crying or Very sad

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Epistrefontas ston x8esino agwna, den uparxoun polla na poume.....o Armstrong edeikse oti einai 1 klash anwteros (h 1 doping anwteros.Isws na mhn ma8oume pote thn alh8eia ).

H omada tou ekane APISTEUTH douleia kai ton odhghse mexri ta mesa ths teleutaias kai pio duskolhs anhforas. Ekei phre ta hnia o Amerikanos kai ekane foberh epi8esh 10km prin to telos.

- MEGALH APOGOHTEUSH o VINOKOUROV pou emeine pisw 5'28''..........(teleiwse to TOUR gi'auton....krima giati eixe dwsei thn entupwsh oti brisketai se eksairetikh forma)

- MEGALH APOGOHTEUSH (alla oxi ekplhksh...giati ka8e xrono to idio sumbainei) o ULLRICH.....

O Germanos exei thn dikaiologia oti epese prox8es kai htan se asxhmh katastash apo pleuras ugeias alla pisteuw oti den 8a ta kataferne na akolou8hsei ton Armstrong etsi ki'alliws....

Koitakste to proswpo tou......opws eipe kai o idios " O ru8mos tou Armstong den htan gi'auton. Enoiw8e oti den mporouse na anapneusei"

- IVAN BASSO.....BRAVO IVAN!!!! Nomizw oti edeikses auto pou oloi lene gia sena ta teleutaia 2 xronia....oti dhladh eisai o diadoxos tou Armstrong.....

O Italos podhlaths exase 1 lepto mono apo ton Amerikano (pou telika egine 1'12'' logw twn 12 seconds "bonus" pou phre o Amerikanos termatizontas sthn 2h 8esh) kai exase thn "roda" tou Armsrtong mono sta teleutaia 4km.

Polu duskolo twra na kalupsei ta 2min 40 seconds sthn genikh ba8mologia, alla pote den ksereis.....menei akoma 1 ebdomada me anhfores Wink

Pros8etw kati :

BRAVO STON IVAN giati :

1) Den "exase ton ru8mo tou" kai den prospa8hse na akolou8hsei ton Armstrong sta teleutaia km.....kati pou mporei na tou kostize kai OLO to Tour.....(an "klatareis" se mia tetoia anhfora mporei na xaseis mexri kai 5-6 minutes se 7-8 Km......)

2) Parolo pou eixe mono 1 mhna na ksekourastei meta ton GIRO D'ITALIA, edeikse oti einai o MONOS apo ta fabori pou mporei na kontrarei ton Armstrong.... Wink

- VALVERDE : Foberos o Ispanos!!!! O MONOS pou den katafere o Armstrong na afhsei pisw tou.......skia tou Amerikanou mexri ta teleutaia metra......oloklhrwmenos podhlaths alla nomizw oti den einai akoma wrimos gia na kerdisei ena Tour de France.

-Rasmussen : H megalh ekplhksh mexri twra!!!! Meta thn apisteuth diadromh pou ekane x8es (170km fugh.... Shocked

) , epibebaiwse oti exei mellon ......katafere na mhn xasei edafos sthn anhfora kai poios kserei an exei dunameis kai gia tis epomenes meres.... Wink

- ARMSTRONG : Edw ti na sxoliasoume......An ksexasoume gia ligo tis upopsies gia doping ktl, prepei na omologhsoume oti einai "APO ALLO PLANHTH"......

X8es eidame ton gnwsto Armstrong me to polu grhgoro "pedalarisma" na anebainei san anemos thn anhfora.

Nomizw oti twra pleon prepei na proseksei ligo mono ton Ivan Basso alla den nomizw na exei idaitera problhmata......2min kai 40sec einai polu megalh diafora an skeftei kaneis oti sthn XRONODIADROMH o Armstrong 8a afhsei TOULAXISTON 1lepto pisw tou ton Italo.....

Sygxarhthria ston Armstrong Wink

GENIKH BA8MOLOGIA :

1 L. Armstrong DSC 37:11:04

2 M. Rasmussen RAB + 38''
3 I. Basso CSC + 2' 40''
4 C. Moreau C.A + 2' 42''
5 A. Valverde IBA + 3' 16''
6 L. Leipheimer GST + 3' 58''
7 F. Mancebo IBA + 4' 00''
8 J. Ullrich TMO + 4' 02''
9 A. Kloden TMO + 4' 16''
10 F. Landis PHO + 4' 16''
11 S. Botero PHO + 5' 20''

16 A. Vinokourov TMO + 6' 32''

P.A.O. · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:49 pm Post subject:

Απο το sportime.gr :

Σύννεφα αρχίζουν να σκεπάζουν σιγά-σιγά τον ποδηλατικό γύρο Γαλλίας. Μετά την αποπομπή του Πετρόφ, λόγω χρήσης απαγορευμένων ουσιών, άλλο ένα περιστατικό ήρθε να σκιάσει περισσότερο τη διοργάνωση, ξυπνώντας μνήμες του πρόσφατος παρελθόντος.
Αυτή τη φορά δεν εντοπίστηκε δεύτερο κρούσμα ντόπινγκ. Όπως ανακοίνωσαν οι διοργανωτές, ο Ιταλός ποδηλάτης Ντάριο Φρίγκο συνελήφθη από τη γαλλική αστυνομία και κρατείται για ανάκριση, όπως και η σύζυγός του, καθώς οι Αρχές ανακάλυψαν απαγορευμένες ουσίες στο αυτοκίνητό της. Ο Ιταλός έχει προϊστορία, καθώς το 2001 αποκλείστηκε από το Γύρο Γαλλίας, όταν βρέθηκαν αναβολικά στο δωμάτιο του ξενοδοχείου του. Αργότερα του επιβλήθηκε ποινή αποκλεισμού 6 μηνών.
Μέχρι εκείνη τη στιγμή ο Φρίγκο βρισκόταν στη 52η θέση της γενικής κατάταξης, στην τρίτη συμμετοχή του στη διοργάνωση. Στο υπόλοιπο αγωνιστικό κομμάτι, ο Λανς Άρμστρονγκ με την ολοκλήρωση του 10ου ετάπ ανέκτησε τα ηνία της γενικής κατάταξης και την κίτρινη φανέλα, τερματίζοντας στη δεύτερη θέση. Νικητής αναδείχθηκε ο Ισπανός, Αλεχάντρο Βαλβέντερε, ενώ τρίτος ήταν ο Δανός, Μίκαελ Ράσμουνσεν, ο οποίος αναρριχήθηκε στη 2η θέση της γενικής κατάταξης.

Dimiskour · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject:

Κατ'αρχας Projected συγχαρητηρια για την πολυ καλυψη του αγωνα που μας προσφερεις. Wink

projected · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject:

Dimiskour : POLY SWSTH H ERWTHSH SOU.......

O RASMUSSEN exei to problhma oti einai PARA POLU KALOS stis anhfores alla einai sxedon "akinhtos" stis XRONODIADROMES kai stis diadromes gia SPRINTERS......

Opws katalabaineis me auta ta xarakthrhstika einai pi8anon na krath8ei dipla ston Amerikano sta bouna (an kai proswpika pisteuw oti meta apo 1-2 meres 8a pesei katakorufa o ru8mos tou) , alla pws na kataferei na apeilhsei ton Armstrong otan sthn XRONODIADROMH 8a xasei TOULAXISTON 2-3 lepta kai stis eu8eies diadromes alla tosa?
Rolling Eyes

H apopsh mou einai oti mallon 8a ta kataferei na termatisei stous 10 prwtous sthn telikh ba8mologia, alla ton blepw katw apo to TOP 5......

p.s: Auta pou eipa bebaia einai h "LOGIKH"......ston a8lhtismo kamia fora (araia omws...) ginontai kai 8aumata... Cool

p.s2: Mias kai rwthses gia ton RASMUSSEN, 8a h8ela na dwsw orismenes akomh plhrofories gi'auton ton podhlath :

Fetos, prin to TOUR phre meros ston GIRO D'ITALIA alla aposur8hke sta misa stou agwna xwris na kanei tipota to idaitero....(kata th gnwmh mou summeteixe kuriws epeidh menei sthn Italia kai oxi epeidh htan proponhmenos..exei mexri kai magazi me podhlata sthn limnh ths Garda...)

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Mia mikrh parousiash tou shmerinou agwna (13/07)
(Courchevel --> Briancon - 173 km)

(sxolia-analisi tou agwna 8a sas kanw to bradu!! )

Col de la Madeleine

Col de Telegraphe e de Galibier

p.s: Shmera perimenw thn apanthsh tou VINOKOUROV meta ton x8esino kseftulismo..... Evil or Very Mad

projected · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject:

LOIPON.....molis teleiwse o shmerinos agwnas....
(Courchevel --> Briancon - 173 km)

Sas dihgoumai ti egine kai orismena sxolia.

1 019 VINOKOUROV Alexandre
2 061 BOTERO Santiago 00' 00"
3 101 MOREAU Christophe 01' 15"
4 023 JULICH Bobby 01' 15"
5 151 MAZZOLENI 01' 15"
6 001 ARMSTRONG Lance 01' 15"
7 044 EVANS Cadel 01' 15"
8 164 LEIPHEIMER Levi 01' 15"
9 057 RASMUSSEN Mickael 01' 15"
10 161 TOTSCHNIG Georg 01' 15"
11 038 VALVERDE Alejandro 01' 15"
12 007 POPOVYCH Yaroslav 01' 15"
13 021 BASSO Ivan 01' 15"
14 135 ROGERS Michael 01' 15"
15 011 ULLRICH Jan 01' 15"
16 031 MANCEBO Francisco 01' 15"
17 096 JAKSCHE Jorg 01' 15"
18 108 KASHECHKIN Andrey 01' 15"
19 066 LANDIS Floyd 01' 15"
20 014 KLÖDEN Andréas 01' 15"
21 199 ZUBELDIA Haimar 01' 15"
22 026 SASTRE Carlos 01' 15"
23 002 AZEVEDO José 01' 15"
24 004 HINCAPIE George 01' 15"
25 039 ZANDIO Xabier 01' 15"
26 009 SAVOLDELLI Paolo 01' 15"
27 012 GUERINI Giuseppe 01' 15"
28 087 PIEPOLI Leonardo 01' 15"

Sto 31°Km ena groupaki dialekse na ksefugei apo to megalo group. Se auto to groupaki htan mesa oi Botero,Vinokourov.......

Ara milame oti o Vinokourov anagkasthke na kanei thn "apodrash" 142km prin ton termatismo......lol

Sas ekshgw orismena pragmata apo pleuras taktikhs se auto to shmeio:

1) O Vinok. anagkasthke na apodrasei toso nwris giati hksere oti an meinei dilpa ston Armstrong mexri tis 2 megales anhfores, meta 8a htan duskolo na mporesei na tou ksefugei...... (giati otan prepei na apodraseis se mia anhfora, den ksereis pote an oi antipales omades 8a se afhsoun h 8a prospa8hsoun na "sbhsoun" ta ksepetagmata sou, akolou8wntas thn apodrash sou....)

2) Einai fanero oti o Armstrong "epetrepse" ston Vinokourov na kanei auth thn fugh, epeidh meta to x8esino patatrak den htan pia apeilh gia ton Amerikano sthn genikh ba8mologia .........7 sxedon leta einai para polla.....

Ara apofasise na ton afhsei na fugei apo to group kai apla na ton "elegxei"....dhladh frontize na krataei ena ru8mo tetoio pou na krataei se apostash 2-3 minutes ton Vinok....(oi upeu8unoi na krathsoun auton ton ru8mo einai oi "boh8oi" tou Amerikanou)

Ontws etsi kai egine. Dhladh anelaban 2 podhlates-boh8oi tou Lance ths DISCOVERY na krathsoun upshlo ru8mo mexri pou ftasame sthn megalh (2h) anhfora.......

Milame gia mia anhfora pou diarkei 20km peripou kai pou h korufh ths einai sta 2650m............ Shocked

(prepei na eisai proetoimasmenos polu kala giati uparxei kai problhma anapnohs se tetoia upsh.....)

Dustuxws KANEIS den eixe thn ikanothta-dunatothta na kanei epi8esh sthn anhfora ston ARMSTRONG............. Crying or Very sad

Kai bebaia gia kapoion pou parakolou8ei podhlasia auto htan anamenomeno gia 2 logous :

1) Giati oi "hli8ioi" diorganwtes ebalan ton termatismo 40Km meta thn korufh......opou ta 40 teleutaia km einai (opws mporeite na deite sthn altimetria ths diadromhs) kathfora kai eu8eia.....

Ara POIOS 8a ekane thn kinhsh na afhsei pisw ton Amerikano otan hksere oti kai na ton afhsei pisw meta 8a bre8ei MONOS TOU se 40km kathforas-eu8eias???? Rolling Eyes

Einai fanero oti o Amerikanos me thn omada pou exei 8a ton eftane....

2) H omada tou Amerikanou einai polu dunath.........

Arkei na deite poioi termatisan shmera mazi me ton Lance.......ousiastika H MISH OMADA TOU!!!!

SAVOLDELLI.....HINCAPIE....AZEVEDO......POPOVYCH....eixan ton idio xrono me ton Amerikano

Enw o IVAN BASSO kai o ULLRICH eixan mazi tous 1-2 boh8ous...(oi upoloipoi klatarhsan stis anhfores...)

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VINOKOUROV: BRAVO STON VINO!!!

An kai, opws hdh eipa, o Armstrong tou epetrepse na apodrasei epeidh den ton apeilouse sthn genikh ba8mologia, h8ele megalo kouragio na ksefugeis apo to 31°km......

Sta teleutaia 5km ths megalhs anhforas eixe meinei o Vinokourov monos tou mazi me ton BOTERO.

O Botero den antekse kai emeine pisw gurw sta 50seconds.

Molis teleiwse h anhfora o Vinok. htan POLY eksupnos na perimenei ton Ispano...

Hksere oti htan polu duskolo na krathsei upshlo ru8mo gia 40km kathforas kai eu8eias monos tou....eixe anagkh apo enan boh8o (gia na trabaei mia o enas mia o allos).
Hksere oti o Ispanos htan mono 50seconds pisw tou, opote epibradune sta arxika km ths kathforas (ta opoia htan kai epikunduna giati htan bregmenos o dromos).

Molis ton eftase o Ispanos arxisan na phgainoun polu grhgora.
Wstoso h DISCOVERY tou Armstrong epitagxune kai telika eftase ston termatismo meta apo 1'25''

Ara o VINOK kalupse 1'25'' + 20seconds (to "bonous" epeidh hr8e 1°s)
Twra einai 4'47'' pisw apo ton Amerikano sthn genikh ba8mologia.....(para polla dustuxws..)

Wstoso o Vinok. eipe sthn sunenteuksh tupou oti h x8esinh htan h XEIROTERH MERA STHN A8LHTIKH TOU KARIERA....(ontws kai egw den 8umamai pote na exei meinei 6 sxedon lepta pisw se 10km anhforas.... Shocked

)

Orismenoi apo esas 8a anarwth8oun : "Pws einai dunaton o Vinok. na menei 6min pisw apo ton Armstrong se mia anhfora 10-15km (h x8esinh) kai shmera na kerdizei ????

To sumperasma mporeite na to bgalete monoi sas...(einai auto pou lew apo ta arxika post....oti dhladh h podhlasia einai "omadiko" a8lhma kai paizei megalo rolo h psuxologia)

X8es o Vinok. den perimene na einai toso dunatos o Amerikanos.Den perimene oti o Armstrong 8a ekane epi8esh.....
Tautoxrona sthn T-MOBILE ta eftusan oloi ...(des ULLRICH.....)

Pantws sugxarhthria kai pali ston Kazako podhlath o opoios eipe oti 8a prospa8hsei na epite8ei kai tis epomenes meres Cool

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IVAN BASSO :

Loipon....o IVAN einai polu eksupno paidi...

Kserei oti den exei nohma na kanei epi8esh apo twra ston Armstrong....gia 2 logous:

i) Giati o Amerikanos einai para polu dunatos
ii) Giati o Amerikanos exei kaluterh omada

Ara skefthke na akolou8hsei thn ekshs taktikh :

Sou leei " As prospa8hsw na akolou8hsw san skia ton Amerikano......Molis ftasoume stis 2 diadromes sta Pirinei (pws legetai sta ellhnika auth h oroseira?), tote 8a tou epite8w!!

An ta kataferw na ton afhsw pisw...tote kerdisa to Tour!!!
An pali den ta kataferw, tote as prospa8hsw na meinw liga lepta pisw tou etsi wste na anebw sto ba8ro toulaxiston....(perusi hr8e 3°s)

Bebaia se olh auth thn taktikh den htan upologismeno to 1,5 lepto pou exase x8es......alla eipe kai o idios sta italika mesa enhmerwshs oti 2min 40seconds den einai terastia apostash kai den aksizei na riskarei apo twra....

8a doume ti 8a ginei telika.....egw proswpika (meta apo auto pou eida x8es) to 8ewrw api8ano na apeilhsei kapoios ton Amerikano.....alla pote den ksereis... Wink

Pantws loipoun oi podhlates me "KOTSIA" .....leipei enas PANTANI (pou misouse ton Amerikano kai ka8e fora pou htan antipaloi sthn anhfora, pros8a8ouse na ton afhsei pisw, giati opws elege kai o idios "DEN MOU ARESEI H PAREA TOU AMERIKANOU"...)

Telospantwn.To TOUR einai panta TOUR.
Alloi uposthrizoun ton Armstrong , alloi ton misoun Wink

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p.s: Gia to 8ema DOPING tou FRIGO den 8elw kan na ksodepsw panw apo 2 grammes..... Evil or Very Mad

Einai h 2h fora pou kanei to idio la8os.....as plhrwsei twra.

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GENIKH BA8MOLOGIA :

1 ARMSTRONG
2 RASMUSSEN Mickael 00' 38"
3 MOREAU Christophe 02' 34"
4 BASSO Ivan 02' 40"
5 VALVERDE Alejandro 03' 16"
6 BOTERO Santiago 03' 47"
7 LEIPHEIMER Levi 03' 58"
8 MANCEBO Francisco 04' 00"
9 ULLRICH Jan 04' 02"
10 KLÖDEN Andréas 04' 16"
11 LANDIS Floyd 04' 16"
12 VINOKOUROV Alexandre 04' 47"

Dimiskour · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject:

Πώς γινεται 26 ποδηλατες να φερνουν ακριβως τον ιδιο χρονο? Shocked

rchos7 · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject:

δεν ειμαι ειδικος και θαυμαζω τον προτζεκτιντ για ολα αυτα που ξερει οπως θαυμαζω και την υπομονη του γιατι εγω δεν μπορω να παρακολουθησω ποδηλασια εκτος πιστας.
οσοι ποδηλατες τερματιζουν σε ιδια γκρουπ και σε αποσταση 16 μετρων αν δεν κανω λαθος παιρνουν ιδιο χρονο βεβαια ο προτζεκτιντ θα ξερει πιο σιγουρα Exclamation

projected · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject:

Dimiskour : Oi podhlates exoun ton idio xrono otan einai sto "IDIO GROUP"....

Twra fusika 8a me rwthseis : " Kai pote mporoume na 8ewrhsoume oti einai sto idio group ? "

Apanthsh : Otan h pisw roda tou teleutaiou sto group den "apexei" panw apo 1 second apo thn mprostinh roda autou pou akolou8ei to group.....

( dhladh den uparxei krithrio "apostashs" alla "xronou" )

Paradeigma: Eimaste 10 podhlates sto idio group kai pisw mas uparxei ena allo group pou apexei px. 3 seconds.
Kai oi 10 8a exoume sto telos ton xrono tou 1ou podhlath tou group mas. (ennoeitai oti den prepei na uparxoun "megala kena" anamesa stous 10 podhlates tou group mas...) (auta elegxontai kai me to video tou termatismou).

*** An kapoios podhlaths px. pesei (atuxhma) sta 3Km prin ton termatismo, tote diathrei ton xrono autou pou odhgouse to group tou !!!

(autos o kanonas uparxei MONO gia ta teleutaia 3Km giati kapoios podhlaths mporei na pesei sta teleutaia km logw 8eatwn ktl )

rchos7 : Dikaiologw apoluta to post sou kai se katalabainw 100% !!!!! Very Happy

Einai akribws auta pou elega egw prin katalabw ti sumbainei me to Tour de France kai ton Giro d'Italia!!!!!

Se kalw na diabaseis to arxiko mou post (se auto to topic) , opou ekshgw oti mou ekane entupwsh pou h Podhlasia einai to 3° pio dhmofiles a8lhma se xwres opws h Italia kai h Galia !

Thn podhlasia se pista den thn parakolou8ei SXEDON KANEIS sthn Italia kai sthn Galia. Einai san na sugkrineis to podosfairo stous Olumpiakous agwnes me to mundial kai to Euro !!!! (to Tour einai to mundial kai o Giro d'Italia to EURO)

Sthn Ellada dustuxws, pera apo to oti fantazomai oti den metadidontai kan TOUR Kai GIRO.......(mono sto Eurosport) Confused

, den uparxei h katallhlh paideia gia na kanei ton kosmo na agaphsei auto to sport.

Egw pou to parakolou8w px. sthn Italikh thleorash menw me anoixto to stoma apo tis perigrafes twn sxoliastwn.....

Einai ena taksidi sthn istoria.....oi sxoliastes sou ekshgoun tis taktikes ths ka8e omadas, texnikes duskolies ktl....

PISTEPSE ME !!! EINAI FOBERO A8LHMA

An tuxon ksupnhsoun sthn Ellada kai arxisoun na to parakolou8oun....(alla auto 8a ginei mono an ksefutrwsei kanenas polu dunatos ellhnas podhlaths... Wink

) , tote 8a ginei xamos!!!!!
Eimai sigouros oti an Ellhnes a8lhtes asxolountan me thn podhlasia (se epipeda Tour kai Giro ) 8a eimastan apo tous kaluterous ston kosmo!!!
(giati xreiazetai KARDIA, PSUXOLOGIA pera apo fusikh katastash )
Fantasteite na katebazame Ellhnikh omada sto Tour...... Shocked

p.s: Sthn Italia milame gia thle8eash 6-7 ekatomuria....sthn Galia akoma perissotero !!! Cool

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p.s: An prolabw 8a sas etoimasw post ekshgwntas ti leei h "logikh" gia tis epomenes meres tou TOUR...... Ta panta 8a kri8oun apo to ti 8a ginei apo aurio mexri to Sabato (sta bouna dhladh)

8a sas pw poia 8a einai h taktikh tou ka8e a8lhth, oi taktikes twn omadwn,(problepseis ennoeitai oti 8a kanw) , h duskolia ths ka8e diadromhs ktl

savroulis · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:35 am Post subject:

ΓYPΟΣ THΣ ΓAΛΛIAΣ: ΣYZYΓΟΣ ITAΛΟY ΠΟΔHΛATH METEΦEPE ΔΟΣEIΣ EPΟ...Γυναίκα-δηλητήριο πιάστηκε στο τελωνείο

projected · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject:

EFTASE H MEGALH STIGMH!!!!!!!!

Shmera,aurio kai thn Trith (16,17,19/07) krinetai to Tour de France..........
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Shmera exoume thn foberh diadromh : Agde > Ax-3 Domaines

EPITELOUS mia diadromh pou teleiwnei me anhfora.... Rolling Eyes

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http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/2765/paileres20uq.jpg

Opws hdh kserete, o ARMSTRONG einai 1°s sth genikh ba8mologia.
Hr8e h wra ths alh8eias gia tous IVAN BASSO, ULLRICH, VINOKOUROV na deiksoun an mporoun na kerdisoun ton Amerikano....

1 ARMSTRONG
2 RASMUSSEN Mickael 00' 38"
3 MOREAU Christophe 02' 34"
4 BASSO Ivan 02' 40"
5 VALVERDE Alejandro 03' 16"
6 BOTERO Santiago 03' 47"
7 LEIPHEIMER Levi 03' 58"
8 MANCEBO Francisco 04' 00"
9 ULLRICH Jan 04' 02"

11 LANDIS Floyd 04' 16"
12 VINOKOUROV Alexandre 04' 47"

*** Den upologizw ton Rasmussen giati ,gia na katalabete, exase 3 lepta sthn Xronodiadromh 19Km....kai alla 2min sthn xronodiadromh omadwn... Rolling Eyes

Epeidh 8a xasei sigoura kai sthn epomenh xronodiadromh(next week), pisteuw oti einai API8ANO na apeilhsei ton Amerikano

*** X8es dustuxws aposur8hke, logw traumatismou, o ispanos VALVERDE. Crying or Very sad

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Sas kanw mia suntomh proswpikh analisi gia ton shmerino agwna :

An egw hmoun sth 8esh twn omadwn tou BASSO kai tou ULLRICH,VINOKOUROV (dhladh CSC kai T-MOBILE), 8a akolou8ousa thn ekshs taktikh :

- 8a edina entolh ston KLODEN kai ston SASTRE na epite8oun kamia 70a km prin arxisei h 1h megalh anhfora.....(stis mikres anhfores dhladh sta misa ths diadromhs)
Me auto ton tropo, h omada tou Armstrong (DISCOVERY) 8a anagkastei na anebasei ton ru8mo ths (gia na mhn tous afhsei na fugoun polu makria). Ara etsi 8a arxisei na kourazetai ligo o Amerikanos....

- Sthn sunexeia 8a prepei na epite8oun oi arxhgoi twn omadwn BASSO kai ULLRICH (h VINOK.) sthn 1h anhfora kai NA MHN PERIMENOUN thn 2h anhfora giati 8a einai polu arga..... Wink

Ola bebaia 8a eksarth8oun apo 2 parametrous:

1) 8a exoun thn dunamh na kanoun autes tis 2 epi8eseis ? Rolling Eyes

2) Pws 8a antidrasei o Armstrong ?

**** Dustuxws problepw na mhn kanoun auto pou eipa kai na prospa8hsoun na epite8oun sthn teleutaia anhfora..... Crying or Very sad

Me auto ton tropo akoma kai an upo8esoume oti afnoun ton Armstong pisw.....apokleietai na kerdisoun panw apo 30-60 seconds......polu ligo gia na anatrepsoun thn katastash sthn genikh ba8mologia.....

**** Bebaia mporei na doume kai to gnwsto ergo......anti dhladh na epite8oun Ullrich ktl , na kanei epi8esh o Amerikanos kai na tous ka8arisei olous apo shmera.... Crying or Very sad

savroulis · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject:

Για άλλη μια φορά, και η τελευταία του, αλλά για πολλούς επίδοξους διεκδικητές για 7 συνεχείς νίκες, όνειρο.....

Lance Armstrong closed out his amazing career with a seventh consecutive Tour de France victory Sunday - and did it a little earlier than expected.

projected · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:30 pm Post subject:

Exw para polla na pw panw sto Tour (eksetazw thn periptwsh na mhn pw tipota telika giati problepw na grafw ek8esh... Laughing

)
Pantws kanw amesws 2 sxolia :

1) Diabasa x8es to ar8ro sto contra.gr gia thn nikh tou Armstrong
http://www.contra.gr/story.63648.html , opou o suntakths egrafe to ekshs "ANATRIXIASTIKO" Shocked

"O megaluteros podhlaths sthn istoria ths podhlasias,Lance Armstrong, ktl ktl ktl".... Shocked

Tou esteila amesws email legontas tou oti ton dikaiologw giati profanws einai asxetos epi tou 8ematos(podhlasia) kai apla egrapse ena ar8ro giati eprepe na metaferei thn eidhsh ths nikhs tou Amerikanou.....
To na pei kapoios oti o Armstrong einai o megaluteros podhlaths sthn istoria ths podhlasias einai san na isxuristw egw oti o Rivaldo einai kaluteros apo ton Pele kai apo ton Maradona..... Confused

Telospantwn, tou ekshghsa oti ekane la8os kai blepw oti shmera dior8wse to ar8ro kai egrapse "Ένας από τους μεγαλύτερους ποδηλάτες στην ιστορία του αθλητισμού, ο Λάνς Αρμστρονγκ " Wink

p.s: Wstoso sunexizei na grafei anakribeies "Ο 33χρόνος Τεξανός μετά την νίκη του δέχθηκε ένα απρόοπτο τηλεφώνημα στο κινητό του τηλέφωνο από τον πρόεδρο των ΗΠΑ Τζορτζ Μπους"
( o Bush ton pairnei thlefwno ka8e xrono amesws meta thn pasarela sto Parisi... Rolling Eyes

) alla telospantwn......)

2) Aposur8hke loipon o Armstrong apo thn podhlasia kai telika ti egine? "SIWPH".....Den asxolh8hke sxedon kaneis.....
Auto giati o Amerikanos (opws exw ekshghsei se prohgoumena post) den 8ewreitai apo tous eidikous (kai apo to koino) san "IERO TERAS THS PODHLASIAS"......
Sxedon adiaforos loipon o kosmos ths podhlasias gia to gegonos.
SUGXARHTHRIA ston Lance Armstrong.
Sugxarhthria ston an8rwpo Armstong pou nikhse thn arrwstia kai eixe thn psuxikh dunamh na gurisei stous agwnes (kai na kerdisei 7 Tour sunexomena), alla.... menoun polla erwthmatika gia thn kariera tou.... Crying or Very sad

-Ta farmaka gia thn testosteronh ktl (to "nomimo" doping opws to onomazoun polloi)....
-H sullhpsh tou prwn giatrou tou gia Doping ktl....
-H "gangsterikh" tou sumperifora apenanti ston Simeoni sto persuno Tour... Evil or Very Mad

(o opoios Simeoni eixe sumballei sthn katadikh gia doping tou prwhn giatrou tou Armstrong)
-H apousia tou apo olous tous allous agwnes ektos tou Tour de France....(opws elege kapoios einai san h Milan na etoimaze ka8e xrono MONO to Champions League kai na mhn epaize sto Campionato, sto Kupelo Italias ktl....)
- ktl ktl

8a meinei sthn istoria o Amerikanos alla ena skali katw apo tous Gino BARTALI ,Fausto COPPI, Jacques ANQUETIL, Bernard HINAULT ,Miguel INDURAIN kai fusika 2 skalia katw apo ton "KANIBALO" Eddy MERCKX.

p.s: Sxolia gia thn nikh (100% dikaih kai eukolh) tou Armstrong ka8ws kai gia to mellon ths podhlasias(sthn meta-Armstrong epoxh), se epomena post. Cool

edit : Mou apanthse sto email o suntakths tou ar8rou tou contra.gr

"Agapite file, kalispera.
Exeis apolito dikio, den exo idea apo podilasia kai ektakta asxolithika me to thema. Apologoumai an prosevala tin aisthitiki soy. Ontos, den gnorizo oute enan apo osous anafereis."
Me ektimisi, Panos Kiapekakis.

Nomizw oti h apanthsh tou ton tima...... Wink

Dimiskour · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:

Εκανα μια γρηγορη ερευνα στο Ιντερνετ γραφοντας "best cyclist ever" στο Google και διαπιστωσα οτι οι περισσοτεροι πιστευουν οτι ο καλυτερος ολων ειναι ο Eddy MERCKX.

Ενα ενδιαφερον αρθρο για να γνωρισει κανεις τι εχει καταφερει αυτος ο ποδηλατης ειναι το ακολουθο (αν και γραφτηκε ενα χρονο πριν πιστευω οτι ο συγγραφεας του θα εγραφε τα ιδια σημερα):

Armstrong doesn't come close to 'The Cannibal'

Ο αρθρογραφος τελειωνει με το εξης εντυπωσιακο:

"Whilst Armstrong should be lauded for his achievement in winning a record six Tours de France, when it comes to the question of who is the greatest cyclist, Merckx wins hands down.

For mine, Merckx may well be the greatest living athlete, across any sport." Shocked

projected · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:26 am Post subject:

Dimiskour mono kai mono pou grafw to onoma tou KANIBALOU me pianei DEOS......
Mexri kai o idios o Armstrong exei paradextei (se sunenteuksh tou) oti einai mia kathgoria katw apo ton KANIBALO (kai gia na to parextei o idios fantasou gia ti diafora milame...)
O KANIBALOS einai o zwntanos MY8OS ka8e podhlath.Einai to shmeio anaforas. Einai o Michael Jordan ths podhlasias.

An o KANIBALOS etoimaze 1 mono agwna olh th xronia(to Tour) 8a eixe kerdisei 30 Tour de France.........
O KANIBALOS katabroxdize olous tous agwnes stous opoious epairne meros...kai to KYRIOTERO ! timouse thn podhlasia......etrexe olh th xronia....sto Tour, ston Giro, sthn Vuelta....stis Klasikes tou Bora....pantou...

Dimiskour · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:

Projected, μετα απο αυτα που διαβασα σε καταλαβαινω απολυτα!

Μπορεις να μας πεις λιγα πραγματα (αν δεν το εχεις κανει ηδη) για το world road championship το οποιο αναφερεται στο αρθρο που ποσταρα πριν? Πού γινεται και ποσο σημαντικο ειναι?

Επισης, ο MERCKX το 1974 καταφερε να κερδισει τοσο το Tour de France οσο και το Tour of Italy & world road championship. Εχει καταφερει κανενας κατι πιο εντυπωσιακο μεσα σε μια χρονια?

projected · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject:

Dimiskour, sugnwmh pou den sou apanthsa alla eixa fugei gia diakopes.....

To World road championship den einai o agwnas pou kerdise o Italos Paolo Bettini stous Olumpiakous. Meta apo to TOUR DE FRANCE kai ton GIRO D'ITALIA einai o pio shmantikos agwnas pou uparxei.

Prokeitai gia enan agwna pou ginetai KA8E XRONO(telos Septembriou) se topo8esia diaforetikh ka8e xronia pou thn epilegei h pagkosmia podhlatikh omospondia. O agwnas autos diarkei 1 mera (ARA DEN EINAI AGWNAS me "TAPPE", opws to TOUR kai o GIRO). H diadromh sunh8ws apoteleitai apo anhfora+eu8eies kai epanalambanetai polles fores (skopos ths einai meta apo kapoia km na ksexwrisei tous kaluterous a8lhtes, ara prepei na uparxoun opwsdhpote anhfores shmantikes). H sunolikh diadromh einai gurw sta 250Km.
Perusi o agwnas egine sthn VERONA(Italia) kai kerdise o Ispanos Oscar Freire Gomez.
Fetos 8a ginei sthn MADRITH.
O nikhths autou tou agwna foraei GIA 1 XRONO se olous tous agwnes pou summetexei mia fanela leukh me riges orizonties pou exoun to xrwma tou ouraniou toksou. Smile

An upo8esoume oti sto podosfairo to "TELEIO" einai na kerdisei mia omada:

i) CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
ii) PRWTA8LHMA
iii) KUPELO

, tote sthn podhlasia to "TELEIO" einai na kerdisei enas podhlaths:

i) TOUR DE FRANCE
ii) GIRO D'ITALIA
iii) World road championship
iv) "To rekor ths wras" (edw 8a ekshghsw argotera ti akribws einai...)

Ta parapanw (i),(ii),(iii) thn idia xronia (o Merckx kai to (iv) ) to exoun kataferei mono 2 a8lhtes sthn istoria ths podhlasias (an den kanw la8os) :

1) Eddy Merckx to 1974
2) Stephen Roche to 1987.

To "RECORD ths wras" to katexei opoios dianusei me to podhlato ta perissotera KM mesa se 1hour !! (SE PISTA ennoeitai kai oxi se dromo) Cool

Auth thn stigmh to recor to katexei o Tsexos SOSENKA pou se 60min ekane 49,7 Km.
O Merckx eixe to record apo to 1972 mexri to 1984 kai to exase mono kai mono epeidh allakse o tropos kataskeuhs twn podhlatwn Wink

Gi'auto ton logo 8ewreitai oti o MERCKX katexei akoma to recor me "PARADOSIAKO PODHLATO"
(an se endiaferei to 8ema, mporoume na emba8unoume se epomena posts)

projected · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:19 am Post subject:

Ar8ro "BOMBA"(tou styl oloi to kseroune kai emeis to exoume krufo kamari) shmera ths gallikhs a8lhtikhs efhmeridas
l'equipe

Yposthrizei oti exei apodeikseis oti o Amerikanos eixe bre8ei ntoparismenos sto Tour de France tou 1999....(EPO)

p.s: To ar8ro to exw sta gallika+italika. As perimenoume mhpws to bgaloun kai ta ellhnika sites.

Pros to paron :
http://www.lequipe.fr
http://www.repubblica.it/2005/h/sezioni/sport/ciclismo/ciclismo/ciclismo.html

edit: Bghkan kai ta ellhnika ar8ra http://www.contra.gr/story.65064.html

Mozart · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject:

Δεν ήξερα που να βάλω αυτές τις φωτογραφίες. Αν θέλει ο admin ή οι mods ας τις μερακινήσουν. Είναι το ποδηλατοδρόμιο των Τρικάλων!! Μια ξύλινη κατασκευή, νομίζω για προπονητικούς και μόνο σκοπούς, καμιά 10ριά χιλιόμετρα πριν τα Τρίκαλα σε ένα χωράφι στη μέση του πουθενά. Απο κοντά είναι εντυπωσιακό. Δυστυχώς οι φωτογραφίες δεν είναι αντιπροσωπευτικές, γιατί είναι μέσα από το αυτοκίνητο.

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